logoThis week on Food for Thought whilst on my travels I interviewed Amanda Weller a therapist who practices Body Talk in Surrey, a fascinating therapy which uses kinesiology and energy work to bring balance back to the body. After one session for my frozen shoulder I felt a lightness and a confidence to start to move what had been a very painful area of my body! She explains what Body Talk is, and how she practises it to aid peoples health. Totally non invasive. Click here to listen

BodyTalk works with the understanding that if everything in your body is in good communication with everything else, then your body and mind will be functioning well. But when these lines of communication break down for whatever reason, for example due to stress, trauma, physical injury, fears etc., that is when symptoms start to show up.
BodyTalk uses muscle testing, light hand contacts, and gentle tapping (an ancient Hatha Yoga technique) to initiate subtle electrical currents in the body. This is achieved by using the latest advances from quantum physics, clinical studies and energy medicine to help reset the nervous system out of “fight or flight mode” into a healing mode, re-establishing lines of healthy communication between the systems of the body.

No two sessions are the same. Each one is uniquely determined by what is appropriate at that particular time, and the effects of the sessions are cumulative. As a result, healing through BodyTalk can be deep and lasting.


img_4672This week on Food for Thought Deborah is talking to Philip Weeks who is one of the leading natural health experts in the UK. He is a master herbalist, registered acupuncturist and naturopath and has been working as a consultant with adults and children for over 15 years. Click here to listen

Philip is an engaging, informative presenter and is renowned for his deep understanding and knowledge of Ayurvedic, Arabic, Chinese and Greek medicine making them relevant to today. He is also a lecturer, trainer and has written Make Yourself Better: A Practical Guide to Restoring Your Body’s Wellbeing Through Ancient Medicine and Painful Bladder Syndrome: Controlling and Resolving Interstitial Cystitis Through Natural Medicine. His work appears regularly in the media.

Having trained at the College of Integrated Chinese Medicine Philip travelled to Eastern Europe, Germany and India in search of holistic medical practices to combine with his researched clinical expertise.

Philip’s skill lies in an innovative approach combining ancient medicine with modern research and diagnostic techniques. He is one of the few practitioners and teachers of Master Tung acupuncture.

Philip sources herbal, Ayurvedic and homeopathic remedies from around the globe. His clinics have in house pharmacies where unique, hand prepared, bespoke medicinal remedies are made for his patients.

Philip is currently completing an MSc in Nutritional Therapy and a third book for Jessica Kingsley Publishers.

GoddessCallingCover2014This week on Food for Thought I am taking a bit of a detour away from my usual natural health, personal development focus to talk to Karen Tate about her book Goddess Calling: Inspirational Messages & Meditations of Sacred Feminine Liberation Thealogy.
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For almost three decades, Karen’s work has been fuelled by her intense interest and passion for travel, comparative religions, ancient cultures, and the resurging interest in the rise of the Feminine Consciousness.
As an independent scholar, speaker, radio show host, published author, and social justice activist, Karen’s body of work blends her experiences of women-centered multiculturalism evident in archaeology, anthropology and mythology with her unique academic and literary talents, coupled with her travel experience throughout the world.

Her first book, Sacred Places of Goddess: 108 Destinations, has garnered prestigious endorsements, while her second book, Walking an Ancient Path, Rebirthing Goddess on Planet Earth, was a finalist in the National Best Books of 2008 Awards. Tate’s work has been highlighted in the Los Angeles Times, Seattle Times and other major newspapers. She is interviewed regularly in print, on television and on national public radio, and she hosts her own radio show, Voices of the Sacred Feminine, considered a treasure trove of insight and wisdom for our time.

A review of Karens book can be found here

670611_0bebdb92a0f447dab252d0a7e3ee9dce.jpg_srz_p_214_194_75_22_0.50_1.20_0This week on Food for Thought with Deborah Walker is Katrina Patterson who talks with me about natural eye care, and improving your eyesight naturally, without the aid of glasses. Click here to listen

Katrina worked for over 25 years as a researcher with the Consumers’ Association before starting out on her own as an INLPTA NLP Trainer in business and education. She was drawn to NLP by one of its definitions, at attitude of curiosity that leaves behind it a trail of techniques and found it useful as a management tool. She liked the field of NLP so much that for 4 years she was a Trustee of the Association of NLP, when it was a registered charity, assistant editor of the NLP journal ‘Rapport’ and the Association’s Press Officer. A committed life- long learner and researcher she continues to explore different forms of learning and therapy. In 1995, whilst on an NLP and Health Programme in Santa Cruz, California, where NLP first started, she met up with Danish Leo Angart www.vision-training.com who had improved his own really short sighted vision naturally and the next year organised his first Natural Vision Training workshop in London. 18 years later she is still organising his London workshops, this year will be the 39th . She also teaches her own workshops on how to maintain your good vision naturally. She has taught in the UK, US, Skyros – Greece, Finland and Southern Ireland. Leo Angart will be back in London on 21/22 June 2014. Katrina will be teaching a 2 day Improve Your Eyesight Naturally course in Midleton, Cork on 27/28 September and a one day course on Saturday 13 September for www.allaboutnaturalmedicine.com in London.

Most recently, she completed a 3 year training as a Feldenkrais Method of Body Awareness Teacher intrigued by the ideas of Moshe Feldenkrais (1904 – 1984) http://feldenkrais-method.org/en/biography who had a big influence on the field of NLP and knew a lot about how the eyes lead the body into movement. Part of her quest has been a drive to understand how to work with her own dyslexia and dyspraxia and along the way she discovered a lazy eye which may have contributed to both. She doesn’t need to wear glasses and hopes to persuade people that there is more to good vision than optics and to help others take responsibility for understanding their own health. Katrina speaks regularly at conferences around the world on varied topics.


About_ImageOn Food for Thought this week I have the rather amazing Girl Against Fluoride, AKA Aisling Fitzgibbon. One girl against the Irish Government, prepare to be inspired. Wednesday 2pm and Saturday replay at 1pm

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Aisling FitzGibbon aka ‘The Girl Against Fluoride’ is taking legal action against the Irish Government to prevent them from adding dangerous chemicals such as fluoride to the water supply. 

In the run up to the court case they are engaging in a nationwide public awareness campaign to inform as many people as possible about the adverse health effects of fluoride. 

Aisling is taking on this legal battle for the sole purpose of ensuring the right to clean, safe drinking water for the people of Ireland. 

Although Aisling is the one initiating the case, she really needs your help!


Guy_ProfileThis week on Food for Thought I have Dr Guy Meadows talking with me about sleep, the associated health issues that are linked with not having enough for both adults and children are extensive, in fact research is now starting to show that it can be linked with every chronic health condition. We talk extensively about the health impacts particularly our busy schedules have and around the research concerning children’s development and lack of getting to bed early due to all the devices they tend to use. A fascinating show, we also touch on his new book The Sleep Book: How to Sleep Well Every Night, a book he doesn’t mind you falling to sleep to he promises.

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About Dr Guy
Dr Guy has been studying human physiology for 18 years of which 12 years has been devoted to sleep research and the prevention of sleeping disorders.

He completed his doctorate at Imperial College London, whilst studying the sleep research laboratories of the Royal Brompton Hospital in London. He is a leading figure in the area of chronic insomnia, pioneering the use of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and Mindfulness treatment. He has worked with thousands of insomnia sufferers over the last 9 years at his London based clinic and around the world and he set up The Sleep School to help stop Insomniacs needlessly suffering around the world. He is a published author The Sleep Book: How to Sleep Well Every Night and regularly contributes to Television and Radio discussing the importance of getting a good night’s sleep. In June 2014 The Sleep School will be launching in the US and running their first workshop in New York. http://www.thesleepschool.org/

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The Whole Body Solution by Max Tuck – Click here to listen

imgresThere is continual confusion for most people as to what makes a good diet, one minute you are told one thing, the next something else, leaving even the most well read amongst us scratching our heads. Many raw foodists I’ve met over the years are struggling to make their raw diet work for them in the UK, without yoyoing backwards and forwards, and sending their health after an initial improvement burst into a steady decline.

This is often due to them following one specific person and the approach that they have designed with little scientific or nutritional knowledge for themselves, which has worked, or they come to a winter and their body systems can’t deal with all the cold food, and neither can the individual mentally. I find that many people following dietary approaches blindly and are not actually listening to their own body any longer, eating super foods that give mixed messages to the body across the day, and eating any raw food thinking that because it’s raw it must be ok for them. So I’m all for books which give clear outlines of what works and how they work for specific body systems, not just for one person and Max has done this through solid research.

So if you are wondering how to make raw foods work for you in the UK, and how to address your specific health issues which led you to the raw food lifestyle in the first place, and are still finding yourself going backwards and forwards yoyoing between cooked and raw choices, well very definitely The Whole Body Solution: The Complete Guide to Ultimate Health and Anti-ageing should become your bible.

Taking you through each body system chapter by chapter, Max has delved into the science behind raw food, and how to use it to build, support, cleanse etc each body system. Influenced by The Hippocrates Institute approach and Brian Clements, their approach is shown to work, therefore this approach will enable you to achieve a raw food dietary balance if that is what you are searching for.

Clearly written and easy to read, I have no doubt that if you follow this advice, you will make your raw food diet work for you, and look in time as fabulous as Max does without having to turn to Photoshop! The science isn’t too heavy, used to make her points, referenced to add the weight to what she is suggesting. It’s a mixture of an education in how your body works, and the diet and lifestyle changes, raw style, that will optimise it.

If you want optimal health and wellbeing, I can definitely say that eating a raw food diet will ensure that you never look back, it’s been mine and my dogs way of living for over 10 years, and our health has never been better.

TimvanderVliet1-300x300This week on Food for Thought I have Tim Van Der Vliet author of the book Spiritual Awakening, The easy wayAfter 13 years in the financial markets, his interest in spirituality gave him a new perspective on the lessons he learned as a trader. Now he is a full time writer who has a fresh, no-nonsense, and light-hearted approach to life.

Tim talks about what changed for him during his time as a trader, how Spiritual Awakening came about, he takes us through the book, and how to find the joy in our lives and truly experience flow.

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About Tim
Tim van der Vliet is a Dutch Hay House author who lives in the city Amsterdam and rides his bicycle to get around. He has a light view on spirituality that he calls ‘Zen from Amsterdam’, and applies easy-to-use and understand tactics to be a spiritual being in the real world.

Tim is a natural born traveler, has a history in the financial market and he has four pretty young children. After his awakening he quit his job and started writing and speaking about life, or spirituality. Tim integrates spirituality into daily life and applies his real life experiences into easy-to-use and understand tactics to be a spiritual being in the real world, which he calls being “a Yogi in the City”. His book, Spiritual Awakening (the easy way) represents a new generation of spiritual books. Spiritual books can be a gift item, short and beautifully designed, without losing meaning. He is currently working on two new books: A Yogi in the City and The Art of Zen Investing.


author photoOn this weeks Food for Thought Deborah is in conversation with Dr Daniel Keown about his new book The Spark in the Machine: How the Science of Acupuncture Explains the Mysteries of Western Medicine. Dan Keown, who qualified in medicine from Manchester University in 1998, since then he has worked mainly in Emergency medicine, where he continues to work to this day. Throughout this time he has maintained a strong interest in the healing traditions of the East, especially acupuncture. In 2008 he completed a degree in Chinese medicine and acupuncture from the College of Integrated Chinese Medicine in Reading. He has also studied under the renowned Professor Wang Jui-Yi in Beijing.

Whenever possible he uses acupressure in the Emergency department.

Dr Keown is the author of a book on Chinese (and Western) medicine called The Spark in the Machine: How the Science of Acupuncture Explains the Mysteries of Western Medicine which shows that the acupuncture pathways are simply the fascial pathways and Qi the embryological energy that enables self-organisation.

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imagesI welcome back to Food for Thought this week Robert Forman Author of Enlightenment Ain’t What it’s Cracked Up to be: A Journey of Discovery, Snow and Jazz in the Soul, Executive Director of The Forge Institute, and Founding Exec. Editor, Journal of Consciousness Studies and he’s acknowledged as being one of America’s most respected spiritual teachers. He’s been busy since we previously spoke writing a new programme called Soul Jazz. Which is about taking people on a journey of discovery, covering areas such as Take a stand, Engaging others with Depth, and Becoming man, Becoming Woman, it’s wide ranging as is the interview. Helping us to rewrite our story, and create a better life, there is no one better positioned to help with this than Robert who has an amazing insight and personal wisdom. Stop yearning for a better life, and putting off living, Robert talks about how his new programme will help you become inspired to live the life you want to or to even realise that you can live something different!

We talk about how you can use the programme to move ourselves through key challenges that many of us have about habitual patterns of thought, self image etc, and explains the support it gives for those who want to weave more soulfulness into their everyday lives and relationships.If learning to become more intimate with yourself is something you wish to explore then Robert’s interviews will help you on that journey, particularly pointing out how authenticity is a key aspect of the process.

He points out some of the tools in the programme that are available, and who has helped him develop them, as always a truly enlightening hour with Robert that tends to fly by, and hopefully an inspiration to join him on his Soul Jazz programme that starts this May. 

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This week on Food for Thought Deborah is interviewing Jill Swyers a qualified Hippocrates Health Educator who devotes her time to teaching and demonstrating the preparation of living foods as a way to achieve optimum health. Click here to listen

For several years, Jill suffered a low energy level and she felt debilitated. She was diagnosed as suffering from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalga, Hypoglycaemia, Candida and Reynauds disease. She believed her condition could be directly linked to her diet, which is when she started looking seriously at the impact of diet on health. To lose weight, she tried food combining and lost 20Kg (44lb) over a period of six months. Reading about Aloe Vera : ” The Medicine Plant “
and its energising properties, she started to drink the juice and noticed an increase in vitality. To increase her chlorophyll and oxygen uptake, she included wheatgrass in her regime. 

Jill talks about her own journey, how she has remained looking young, the Hippocrates Health Institute, and how it’s influenced her life. She covers the difference in a raw food diet over a living foods diet, and why it matters if you want to optimise your health. She’s considered one of the leading practitioners in the UK with living foods, and explains when to take wheat grass, chlorella, and the benefits of sprouting your own foods.

670611_9cea7b47f8114bb3a9f9e73a2bd0ae30.jpg_srz_p_200_220_75_22_0.50_1.20_0For the past 35 years, Barbara Wren has been searching for insights into who we really are and how our bodies work. She has been teaching and lecturing for the past 27 years, showing people a different approach to wellness through nutrition and healing techniques. Barbara has always believed that empowering individuals through contacting their own inner wisdom is the only true way back to wholeness and happiness within the universal laws and rhythms. She is the founder of the College of Natural Nutrition in the UK.

This interview with Barbara looks at her influences that have led her to develop the philosophy she has now written about, practised for nearly 40 years. She talks about her latest book Our Return to the Light: A New Path to Health and Healing, her amazing new book published by Hay House, which is the follow on book from Cellular Awakening: How Your Body Holds and Creates Light. She talks about how she believes how nutritional teaching has lost it’s way most recently, and is not taking into consideration the spirituality which would be part of Eastern teachings. Her teachings are full of empowering the individual to understand their health and what has led to it being the way it is, enabling them to not only rebalance their body but also access their wisdom and ultimately consciousness. Nutrition is to raise the vibration of the individual, understanding how important it is in the quest to finding ourselves, and realising our true potential. It’s not about optimal performance, it’s about realising enlightenment, and enabling our bodies to be full of light, hence the name of her latest book. A truly amazing teacher. Click here to listen to the interview. 


Nancy Finch

Food for Thought this week I interview the lovely holistic therapist Nancy Finch, who talks about cosmic ordering, reiki attunement, chakra work, and about how to improve your life through Soul Affirmations: Affirmations to Help Rebalance Your Mind, Body and Soul.

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Nancy Finch is an esteemed holistic therapist, healer and Reiki Master who lives and works in Cornwall. With over 15 years of training, teaching and professional experience, Nancy’s work has touched and changed the lives of countless individuals.

Nancy is a qualified Reiki Master, Reflexologist and Holistic Healer and her aim is to always work from the highest good to provide her clients with a positive and uplifting treatment, every time they see her.

Nancy also works with animals to heal both physically and emotionally.

Nancy runs a well attended Meditation Group, as well as running a variety of workshops including the popular Cosmic Ordering Workshop.

As Nancy is a Reiki Master, she is able to attune students to levels 1, 2 & 3, as well as her own ‘Rainbow Attunement’ which serves to open the energy system to the guidance that is all around,

As well as providing wonderful treatments and Workshops, Nancy has also written the successful ‘Soul Affirmations’ book which supports the treatments she provides. This little book of positive affirmations is a godsend for those that have a busy and stressful life!

She is currently working on her second book, which is due for release shortly, as well as moving into the field of Motivational Speaking.

‘Knowing we are all one, I send loving energy to my world’
– Soul Affirmations Soul Affirmations: Affirmations to Help Rebalance Your Mind, Body and Soul


19th March 2014 – The English Sisters 

The English Sisters

On Food for Thought this week Deborah has the lovely opportunity to interview The (rather hypnotic) English Sisters. The show centres around stress and how we don’t really notice how those little things are creating the stress in our lives, we discuss those techniques that can help you to become stress free in minutes.


The English Sisters The Everyday hypnotherapists and Authors in Rome.
Specialise in stress management.

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The English Sisters, Violeta and Jutka Zuggo are the authors of several lifestyle and children’s books including Stress Free In Three Minutes
and Entrancing Tales for Change with NLP and Hypnosis by THE ENGLISH SISTERS

They are also the authors of ‘Don’t Learn English, Smile / Non Imparare l’Inglese, Sorridi’,
and the children’s picture books ‘The Little Sparrow and the Chimney Pot’ and ‘The Little Grasshopper and the big ball of Dung’.

The English Sisters’ Everyday Hypnosis therapeutic videos help alleviate stress and anxiety and are available to watch on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/hypnoramblings. They are appreciated worldwide.

15th March 2014 – Janet Thomson

On this weeks Food for Thought 2pm Wednesday with Deborah Walker she has author and therapist Janet Thomson talking about her book Think More, Eat Less: Use Your Mind to Change Your Body. .

searchJanet Thomson is an outstanding Life Coach with a totally unique blend of skills and experience. She holds a Masters degree in Nutrition & Exercise Science, is an NLP (Neuro-linguistic Programming) Master Practitioner and Trainer, a TFT (Thought Field Therapy) Diagnostic Therapist and a registered Clinical Hypnotherapist. She combines these advanced skills with over 20 years of experience working with clients on an individual basis and in groups and seminars. This has firmly established her as a leader in the field of Personal Development and Achievement.

Janet is also a bestselling author, with her first book and fitness video Fat To Flat reaching No. 1 in the charts. She is an accomplished television presenter with appearances on GMTV and BBC1 and is now resident Health & Fitness Expert and Life Coach for ITV Central News. She regularly delivers seminars both for the general public and other instructors and coaches in the UK and abroad.

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8th March 2014 – Andrea Morrison

DSC_0374On Wednesday at 2pm we have the first of Deborah’s Food for Thought shows, she’s now live on Friday nights for half of her show, so if you want to experience her live wire, high energy then tune in then as well.

This weeks interview is with Andrea Morrison, three years ago Andrea had it all, a great career as a Barrister, three beautiful children that she had battled infertility to conceive, lovely house, great husband, but the reality was a stark contrast. ‘I was working long hours and travelling the length and breadth of the country, I was separated most days from my children and my father had recently passed away. In November 2008 I ended up with Pneumonia and by 2010, I had developed Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. I now know that was the best thing to have happened to me, as I finally had to stop and think, this gave me the chance to become the person I wanted to be’.

Andrea has taken these lessons from her journey and put them in an easy to follow book called Feel Good Factor in 30 Days. As Andrea tells us, ‘by taking lots of small actions in your life, you can make big changes to your levels of happiness, and Blue Monday is a great day to start taking action’. Listen in to hear her story about her journey to great health shared with Deborah.


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1st March 2014 – Becky Walsh

Deborah Walker interviews the kick ass Becky Walsh this week on Food for Thought, a fun and informative interview about Becky and the work she does around intuition and knowing, no holds barred, she shoots straight from the hip. Becky Walsh

Becky Walsh is an intuitive catalyst for people who want growth and positive change in any area of life. She has a private practice for consultations in Bristol and London, and also over the phone and via Skype. Best known for having had a radio show on LBC 97.3, she

is also the author of two published books – Advanced Psychic Development and Intuitive Lovers – six e-books, and numerous online courses.

Becky teaches all over the world including Pakistan, Hong Kong, the USA, the UK, and Chile. She also is a spiritual performance artist and regularly performs her stand-up intuitive show.

Becky is a director of openbeyond.com, a platform that supports self-development teachers and their students.

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19th February 2014 – Lawrence Mitchell

Lawrence Mitchell 024This week on Food for Thought I am interviewing Lawrence Mitchell.

Lawrence Mitchell is a certified IIN Health Coach and author of ‘Sugar – Sickly or Sweet’, a book all about the addictive aspects and dangers of this innocent-looking ingredient.  In this book, Lawrence walks you through 14 steps to reducing any addictions and improving your health forever.

He is passionate about health and wellness and is dedicated to dramatically improving people’s wellbeing, so that they can be the best versions of themselves: healthy, fit, alert, vibrant, well-balanced, disease-free – truly enjoying their lives and getting the most out of each day.

He is in the process of writing a number of new books on the subject of health – please follow him on http://rawenergy.info/blog/ to be the first to hear (and receive previews of) his new books – or follow him on:

Twitter: @RawEnergy100
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rawenergy.info
Pinterest: http://www.pinterest.com/larry92999/health-and-wellness/

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12th February 2014 – Katie Rose

empty cup cover photo smlThis week on Food for Thought I have Katie Rose who is a singer, musician and sound therapist committed to using sound as a tool of personal, social and ecological transformation.

A fully trained holistic therapist, she works with individuals helping them express themselves and experience the power of sound.

She has lead singing groups, choir sessions and workshops across the UK and internationally.

She has released 3 albums, composed a piece for Road to Peace, a film about the Dalai Lama and has performed with artists such as Basement Jaxx, Barefoot Doctor and Tim Wheater.

Her music is played daily on Natural Health Radio.

More info about Katie at  www.therosewindow.org

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29th January 2014 – Robert Forman

imagesWednesday this week  I welcome to Food for Thought Robert Forman Author ofEnlightenment Ain’t What It’s Cracked Up To Be, Executive Director of The Forge Institute, and Founding Exec. Editor, Journal of Consciousness Studies and he’s acknowledged as being one of America’s most respected spiritual teachers. 

Roberts website http://enlightenmentaint.com/

The Forge Institute website

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15th January 2014 – Danny Scahill


Wednesday 2pm I have Chiropractor and Personal Development Coach Danny Scahill, who tells us that chiropractors are not just for when your backs bad! He talks about his personal philosophy about health called Eat Well, Move Well and Think Well! Is he the Anthony Robbins of the chiropracting world, come and listen to find out!


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7th January 2014 – Linda Belcher


I have the lovely Linda Belcher Holistic Therapist and natural health writer and blogger talking about Kinesiology and using it to guide your health. A really fascinating interview with someone who not only practices it but also teaches.

Linda Belcher is a Systematic Kinesiologist and Tutor working in Sussex. She has always had an interest in esoteric, mystical and subtle energies and found her way to kinesiology whilst in a very stressful job in HR. After some successful treatments she took the opportunity to undertake the professional training course and change career. She can take a multi-disciplinary approach to treatments and incorporates reflexology, reiki and Swedish massage where appropriate.

In her spare time she enjoys photography and walking anywhere by the sea. She lives with her Partner in West Sussex and Cornwall is one of their most favourite places on earth, so they take every opportunity to visit. Although having travelled a lot, she has an ever growing wish-list of travel destinations as long as your arm.!!


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 1st January 2014 – Catherine Pestano

Catherine-Pestano1This week on Food for Thought I have one of the loveliest guests ever, Catherine Pestano, who has a background in mental health, social work and senior management, trained as a Healer (of people and animals), then in the 90s  trained with Frankie Armstrong of the Natural Voice Practitioners network and later at Goldsmiths community music programme.

She talks about singing for wellbeing and specific health conditions, and her experiences of working with her voice in the community. The music is from 2 of the projects that she worked on and were part of a community competition. Her work helps people with mental health issues, dementia, Parkinson’s, asthma, cancer, and many other illnesses.

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